The following is a transcript of Dr. Robert Rose interviewing Professor /Dr. Brian A. Rothbart which originally aired on Blog Talk Radio at “Rewiring Your Brain“. Guests of Dr. Rose are people who are “change agents” that are changing themselves and empowering others.
In the interview, Professor Rothbart talks with Dr. Rose about the therapy he (Professor Rothbart) discovered which ‘rewires your brain’ and allows you to heal from chronic, debilitating muscle and joint pain.
Chronic knee, hip and back pain is a problem of epidemic proportions leaving millions of sufferers desperate to find relief. But after trying invasive surgery and countless therapies in an effort to try something – anything – to alleviate their chronic pain, why are so many still aching with indescribable pain?The answer is that a very common source of chronic musculoskeletal pain has – until now – remained unknown. For this reason, the best that people can do is merely manage their chronic pain. In Professor Rothbart’s groundbreaking book, Forever Free from Chronic Pain, he details his life’s work and discoveries about a previously unknown, yet very common source of chronic muscle and joint pain, and provides a full explanation on how you, too, can finally free yourself from the bonds of chronic pain captivity.
In this interview with Professor /Dr. Brian A. Rothbart on discovering the cause of chronic pain and how to heal it, you will discover:
- Why your current treatments for chronic muscle and joint pain don’t work.
- What is the solution to end your chronic musculoskeletal pain – permanently.How to quickly determine if Professor Rothbart’s therapy is for you.
- How you can take immediate action to rid yourself of your chronic pain.
- How, through advanced technology, your body will heal itself for good
Professor /Dr. Rothbart has spent the better part of 40 years in research and clinical practice in order to first find the source of chronic musculoskeletal pain and then how to permanently eliminate it. In his revolutionary approach, patients the world over have been treated successfully where all past therapies have failed.
Part 1 of the interview is below.
DOCTOR ROSE: Hi, my name is Doctor Rose and welcome to ‘Rewiring Your Brain’ and my point is that every person is wired by everybody that you meet to varying degrees, and of course your parents, and friends, and family, and teachers, all these people have more impact on you. And, of course, when you get older, the things you read and the people you hear about affect you. And my guests are all change-agents, and each has managed to major brain rewiring and are now empowering others. And each can rewire your brain to improve your life. And today’s guest is Professor Brian A. Rothbart, talking about being forever free from chronic pain. All right, can he do this and will he rewire your brain? Welcome, Brian.
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Thank you very much. It’s a pleasure being on your show today.
DOCTOR ROSE: Okay, let’s just start off with your book. And the book is called ‘Forever Free From Chronic Pain‘. Let’s just start off, how they get your book, Brian?
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Well, it’s a long story, but just briefly what happened was that, I’ve been involved in research over the last forty years looking at chronic muscle and joint pain. And, it’s epidemic, more people in the United States are living in pain now than all the people with diabetes, heart disease and cancer combined. It’s endemic, and currently we’ve been in pain management, people have been going to the physician, getting drugs, physical therapy, joint replacing, managing symptoms that never get rid of the pain because the cause is never found. That was my research, basically trying to find out what is the cause of chronic pain and is there a common cause.
To make a long story short, ten years ago I discovered two very important previously unknown foot structures that are endemic, that are very common. If you’re born with one of these foot structures, you will end up in chronic muscle and joint pain. Once I made that discovery, I wrote about it and published it in different medical journals. Then I was involved in a research project trying to find a cure, a therapy to address these foot structures that I found.
The book is written about how we can now eliminate chronic pain – not manage it by taking drugs, which are very toxic, by doing surgery, replacing joints, physical therapy, going to acupuncturists or other doctors every week for therapy. I’m talking about how chronic pain can be eliminated. That’s what the book’s about. It talks about my research, what I’ve found, what is the common reason for chronic pain and the therapy that is now available that can eliminate the pain.
DOCTOR ROSE: And how do people get your book?
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Amazon is selling the book. If you go to Amazon.com and look under my name, R O T H B A R T, and you’ll see ‘Forever Free From Chronic Pain’. You can download the book, you can actually get an electronic copy or you can get a hard copy. Either way.
DOCTOR ROSE: Okay. So, you need a Kindle or something to use the electronic copy?
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Yes, Kindle for the electronic book.
DOCTOR ROSE: Yeah, I think I’m funny, I get so many PDFs from my guest, I’m going to go and invest in a Kindle because it gets, you know, it gets hard to read, it’s hard to read on your computer a lot of times. Anyway, okay, so in your book you actually… if a person gets your book, they can do, they don’t have to talk to you over the phone or they don’t have to come to your office?
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Basically, what the book describes is the history of my research, where it started, where it took me, my findings, the cause of the chronic pain, it actually goes in to how it all works on a biochemical, biomechanical, bio-neurological basis. It talks about the therapy, how it works, and it talks about what people can do to actually get out of chronic pain. However, the therapy to be done, it must be done by a physician, it’s not something they can just pick up and do by themselves, they have to go to a physician, then going through the therapy, which is called Rothbart Proprioceptive Therapy.
DOCTOR ROSE: Yeah, so they have to find someone that does that kind of therapy, right?
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: That’s correct. If they were born with one of the two foot structures that I discovered, you would have to go to a healthcare practitioner who has been trained to provide the therapy, (specifically for the foot structures) to eliminate the chronic pain.
DOCTOR ROSE: Okay. Now, I’m very interested in chronic pain because I’ve got… I had a daughter that had a Fibromyalgia and going through horrible experiences with doctors, because of the DEA and all, and they couldn’t give her enough medication at times because that’s what seemed to be the thing that was helping her, and she eventually became practically addicted to (name of medication withheld) and some other drug and she lost her ability, I think, to recognize her pains and when she got a pneumonia, she didn’t realize how sick she was and she died. And it was just something that could easily have been prevented. But anyway, and I have another daughter that had twenty five operations, so she’s in chronic pain, and they give her all kinds of drugs for pain, and, believe me, it comes to that one drug causes side effects so you get another drug to help that and not lose another drug, so she was in seventeen different kinds of prescription medication. And it’s just ridiculous, and…
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Drugs are not the answer. I know, in the United States, chronic pain is treated typically with drugs. Drugs are treating symptoms, pain is a symptom, pain is not the problem. When you go to your physician and he wants to give you a drug, the very first question you should ask, regardless of what you’re going in for, is what causing the symptom. What’s causing my pain? Why do I hurt there? Why do I get dizzy? What is it exactly that’s causing the problem? If he can’t answer that question, go to someone who can. Or maybe he’ll say ‘We don’t know why you’re having that symptom, so we’re going to treat your symptom using medication.’ But then he needs to realize you’re going to be in a life-long process of pain management or symptom management because we don’t know what’s causing the symptoms, so we’re just going to manage them.
Instead, what I tell patients is, if you’re in chronic pain, the first question you ask, who ever you go to, why am I having pain? If they can’t answer the question what the cause is, go to someone that can answer what the cause is. And then ask how are you going to treat it? How are you going to get rid of it? And they should be able to answer specifically how they’re going to get rid of the cause. That’s how you eliminate the pain. Not treating the symptoms, getting at the source of the problem and treating that. That’s what my book’s about, getting at the source, not treating symptoms.
Fibromyalgia is a constellation of symptoms, it is not a disease. It is a syndrome of symptoms, clung together, because we didn’t know what caused all these many symptoms in one person. So, we gave it a name – Fibromyalgia. But treating Fibromyalgia is treating the symptom. Your question should be why do I have Fibromyalgia? What’s causing it and can that be treated? When you do that, you can eliminate the Fibromyalgia. You don’t need to take drugs, you eliminate the cause and you are healthy again. That’s what my book’s about.
DOCTOR ROSE: Well, there are two things that I would comment on. First of all is, you’re talking about changing doctors. You know, when they don’t find it, I know that I’m 79 and going to VA, changing doctors is not, you know, you can do it, but there’s a… once you change it more than once then you get labeled as, you know, a chronic complainer or something. So, you’ve got to be very careful how you deal with it. And one of my daughters that is still alive, she was being treated for Crons Disease that she had an ilioscopy and then… so she was in the hospital for nine months last year, and they finally discovered that she wasn’t Crons, it was what they called Ogilvie syndrome. And the treatment is totally opposite, in many ways, and now she’s functioning a lot better. But I mean, it was three or four years before they figured it out. So, you can’t change doctors there either that easily. So, you’re stuck in that.
The other thing is, what I see as a therapist, as a psychologist and as a teacher is how many people are normally stressed that, like my daughter that had Fibromyalgia, I kept telling her, I said ‘You’re taking drugs because you’re so stressed.’ She had two things, she had a grandmother that was locked into her and making her feel guilty because she couldn’t move somewhere else, she had a husband that wasn’t… that was having some problems and she didn’t deal with that, so her stress, I said ‘Your stress is killing you.’ And, so, how do you differentiate the kind of things like that, that people just are so stressed, and so they get different kinds of symptoms. What’s your answer to that?
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Well, first of all, actually, it’s a very good question. And it goes back to about forty six years ago, that was one of my mentors, and really, really made me start thinking. You cannot treat everyone alike. There’s tremendous bio individuality, biodiversity. There’s no more right or wrong, there’s a PhD doc that tells… Austin…
DOCTOR ROSE: Oh yeah, my favorite guy.
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Yeah, fantastic. He said you can’t treat everyone alike. We are different, we’re made up different, we’re made up different biochemically, our organs are in different position, we are individual. And to treat everyone the same, just because you give them a label, then everyone is treated the same, is ridiculous. You can’t do that. So, the question you’re asking is, how do you handle these issues? And the answer is one by one.
DOCTOR ROSE: Good for you. Good for you, Brian.
And that’s the problem why the healthcare in the United States. They label people, you come in, you get your five or ten minutes with the GP, they put the label on you and then you get treated like everyone else gets treated with that label. That’s not medicine, that’s insanity. You can’t treat that way. You can’t treat that way successfully. That’s how I see things.
You know, and my dad say, when he was practicing pediatrics back in the 40s and 50s, doctors were healthcare providers. We cared about our patients, we took time with our patients, and the number one thing on our minds was getting our patients better. Not paying for our yacht, not paying for our second home, not paying for sending our son to medical school, but getting our patients better. That’s what medicine is about, that’s what it’s about. So, that gives you the question. You’ve got to look at each patient as they’re unique and you’ve got to go through the process of figuring out what needs to be done for that particular patient. Forget the labels. What needs to be done to get that person better?
DOCTOR ROSE: Now, I applied that. You said there’s a professor in Texas. that you…
PROFESSOR ROTHBART: Yeah, he was at the University of Texas in Austin, Department of Chemistry, I believe, 1975-1980. I know he died in 1986, he was 92. That’s one…
DOCTOR ROSE: That was one of the major people that has changed my life, reading his book ‘Biochemical individuality’ and it was extraordinary, I used it all the time. And as a teacher because… And then the other thing is about labeling. And, but like…. I went into my VA doctor, I changed because the guy was an intern that was treating me and I could never find him. So, I finally got another doctor, and I get this doctor and I haven’t seen a doctor for about a year and a half, so I had a lot of different things. I had questions and I had a little list. First of all, the doctor didn’t even look at me when I came in and then he said ‘What’s your problem?’ and I said ‘I’ve got a list’ ‘What’s that?’ I said ‘That’s a list of things.’ He said ‘You’ve got 15 minutes you’ve already used up 2.’ And that was the beginning of our relationship which was pretty chaotic. It works a lot better now, but that gives you the idea, you know… And here I know I’m a great well-educated person and I was ready to work with him, but there was no working with him. He was the boss and just… You know, you just shut your mouth, especially in the VA, you know.
If you suffer form chronic pain that never goes away and has not responded to any other type of therapy, you may be a candidate for Rothbart Proprioceptive Therapy.
To find out if you may have one of two common inherited, abnormal foot structures that Professor /dr. Rothbart treats, take the Rothbarts Foot Questionnaire.
As you learn more about this innovative therapy, you may find that addressing and effectively treating your foot structure may be the missing link to ending your long time battle with unrelenting knee, hip and back pain.
If you have questions about what’s involved in being treated with Rothbart Proprioceptive Therapy, see our FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) Page.
If you would like to contact me regarding an appointment to resolve your pain, click here.
Professor/Dr Brian A Rothbart
Chronic Pain Elimination Specialist
Discovered the Rothbarts Foot and PreClinical Clubfoot Deformity
Developer of Rothbart Proprioceptive Therapy
Inventor and Designer of Rothbart Proprioceptive Insoles
Founder of the International Academy RPT
Author of Forever Free From Chronic Pain and The Foots Connection to Chronic Pain